Talk:Debra Messing

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During her junior year she studied theater at the prestigious British European Studio Group of London program, in England, an experience that fueled her desire to act.

What exactly is this British European Studio Group? Google doesn't seem to have heard of it except in this article. Flapdragon 18:53, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard of it. Michael 06:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name

IMDB says her last name was originally "Moessing." Is that true? Mike H. That's hot 09:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I get numerous google hits saying that her birth name was in fact "Debra Moessing" [1] Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:50, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno, they could've all taken it from the IMDB. Is there a first - hand source, like an interview? JackO'Lantern 09:11, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't exactly seem like something you'd talk about in an interview. "Oh, my last name had an o in it once." Mike H. That's hot 09:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, what I meant it could be something she mentions to an interviewer as part of the usual info (i.e. birthplace-fullname-date), who wouldn't use a direct quote. IMDB, like Wikipedia, gets their info from sources - with luck, they are good and accurate sources, but a lot of the IMDB's recent info comes from sources located exclusively within the info submitter's head. I think her original surname would've been mentioned in something like the Jewish Journal interview I just linked to, as that one goes a bit into her background. JackO'Lantern 09:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The reason her last name would have been spelt Moessing is if she is of german descent. I believe this and have kept trying to add it to the page but it keeps getting removed. In German, when writing words which normally have the umlaut accent mark over a vowel, an e is placed after the o, a, or u. Thus, her name would actually be Mössing but in the American alphabet and it's lack of accents it was probably changed over. cryingstarlet 21:35 21 July 2006

If she's of German decent, the name might have also originally been "Messing" which is German for brass - no alteration of spelling necessary. YggdrasilsRoot 14:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Claim of divorce on Daniel Zelman

Someone added a claim on Daniel Zelman that the couple were divorced; they didn't add a supporting reference, and I can't find one, so I guess it's a rumour or a hoax. As this article gets more visibility, can I ask regulars here to add Daniel Zelman to their watchlist, so similar claims can be caught before they've been up for more than a month. 87.115.166.150 (talk) 23:39, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Her new "East Wing" series

No mention of her "East Wing" series on Starz, which was conceived in 2020, but, apparently, never took off? Skaizun (talk) 03:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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In the personal life section, please change the phrasing of the part where it blatantly states as facts lies about the state of Israel. This is a celebrity bio page, not a hit piece, and should not be used for internet activism. 2601:602:9000:5C70:E00F:7F41:27B3:B32 (talk) 10:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Deltaspace⁴² (talk • contribs) 19:06, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm insufficiently Wikipedian to format this correctly, but I noticed a typo in an URL in the references: hhttps://www.dailydot.com/debug/debra-messing-motaz-azaiza-evacuate-gaza-controversy/ has an (incorrect) double-h at the front, "hhttps" (which doesn't parse to most browsers) should be "https" 2601:645:500:EA00:4F5:121D:DE5E:6724 (talk) 03:33, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thank you for pointing this out. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 09:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter account

The Twitter account provided here appears to be illegitimate (or belonging to someone else with her name). Can this be changed? 12.189.143.19 (talk) 21:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tik Tok call paragraph

This seems grossly WP:UNDUE to me:

In November 2023, amid growing criticism of the Israeli military, Messing was among more than a dozen creators and celebrities who confronted TikTok executives in a private phone call, during which she accused the site of being "the main platform for the dissemination of Jew hate". The company reportedly pushed back against claims that it was promoting pro-Palestine, anti-Israel content through its feeds, stating instead that while the platform regularly moderates anti-semitic, anti-Arab racist, and Islamophobic content, it does not moderate or amplify the spread of content that accuses Zionism of being settler colonialism, the alleged apartheid, or the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians.^[1]^[2] In December 2023, Messing was photographed supporting the Israeli military in the company of political commentator Douglas Murray.^[3]^[4]

References

^ Nolan, Alia Chughtai, Marium Ali, Delaney. "Boycotts and protests – how are people around the world defying Israel?". Al Jazeera. Archived from the original on December 29, 2023. Retrieved 2023-12-29.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
^ Maheshwari, Sapna (November 16, 2023). "Jewish Celebrities and Influencers Confront TikTok Executives in Private Call". The New York Times. Archived from the original on November 20, 2023. Retrieved November 20, 2023.
^ Froim, Yoni (2023-12-21). "American actor Debora Messing visits in Israel: 'Wouldn't want to be anywhere else'". Ynetnews. Archived from the original on December 27, 2023. Retrieved 2023-12-27.
^ Thalen, Mikael (25 January 2024). "'You sit inside your luxury home': Debra Messing sparks furor for mocking Palestinian journalist's decision to leave Gaza". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 19 February 2024.

The first ref (Nolan et al 2023) doesn't mention Messing. Am I overlooking something? If not, then it shouldn't be used.

The second (Maheshwari 2023) summarizes a statement she made:

Ms. Messing, who has more than 37,000 followers on TikTok, pressed executives on TikTok’s moderation of the pro-Palestinian slogan “from the river to the sea,” which many Americans regard as a call to eradicate Israel. It has been deemed antisemitic by the Anti-Defamation League and has appeared in messages and comments to many Jewish TikTok users, regardless of what they’re posting.

and quotes her:

Ms. Messing asked the company to reconsider its stance, saying: “It is much more responsible to bar it at this juncture than to say, ‘Oh, well, some people, they use it in a different way than it actually was created to mean.’ I understand that you are in a very, very difficult and complicated place, but you also are the main platform for the dissemination of Jew hate.”

If we can't find more refs of comparable or better quality, I think the content should be trimmed to a sentence.

The third re (Froim, 2023) briefly documents what looks to be a pr stunt. It seems ok for verifying the short sentence.

The fourth (Thalen 2024) is a poor source: WP:DAILYDOT. Given the article content, a summary of social media posts and responses, I don't think it should be used at all. --Hipal (talk) 17:57, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Nolan, Alia Chughtai, Marium Ali, Delaney. "Boycotts and protests – how are people around the world defying Israel?". Al Jazeera. Archived from the original on December 29, 2023. Retrieved 2023-12-29.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

[2] Maheshwari, Sapna (November 16, 2023). "Jewish Celebrities and Influencers Confront TikTok Executives in Private Call". The New York Times. Archived from the original on November 20, 2023. Retrieved November 20, 2023.

[3] Froim, Yoni (2023-12-21). "American actor Debora Messing visits in Israel: 'Wouldn't want to be anywhere else'". Ynetnews. Archived from the original on December 27, 2023. Retrieved 2023-12-27.

[4] Thalen, Mikael (25 January 2024). "'You sit inside your luxury home': Debra Messing sparks furor for mocking Palestinian journalist's decision to leave Gaza". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 19 February 2024.

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